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Mk 3 S Meister
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Posted: Wednesday February 6th, 2008 10:59 am |
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| It was a BMC Service item but more of a get you home device than a proper hydrolastic pump.
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Andrew1967
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Posted: Saturday February 9th, 2008 04:28 pm |
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mini-Custom-Sports-Pack_W0QQitemZ190197524760QQihZ009QQcategoryZ43122QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
'Starting with a 1968 bodyshell' (registered 09.01.1968). Hmmmmm, I hear bells 
Nice front as well 
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minorparts
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Posted: Saturday February 9th, 2008 04:46 pm |
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| Gosh, one of those rare 1968 shells with the internal hinges and larger rear quarter windows is it???.
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rambling
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Posted: Saturday February 9th, 2008 05:34 pm |
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 I get very peeved when I see a car like this with NOTHING, or very little, about the car relating back to a year of registration, but claiming historic status, therefore no road fund licence payable, only because the registration plate is a pre 1970 plate.
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Andrew1967
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Posted: Saturday February 9th, 2008 06:07 pm |
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As I've commented before these obvious ringers can only bring the whole classic Mini movement into disrepute with DVLA and possibly force draconian measures onto those cars claiming Historic Vehicle classification - ie, some form of VIC testing like that carried out on written-off cars.
Of course, only any good if Mini experts are checking the cars
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Sal
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Posted: Saturday February 9th, 2008 11:38 pm |
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Andrew were you looking for some sort of prize for discovering this monstrosity ??? That is the most vile and disgusting Mini I have ever had the misfortune to clap my eyes on. Poor thing 
Each year at the shows I see an increasing amount of "Log Book jobs." London to Brighton is quite an eye opener.
I wonder if other marque scenes experience the very same thing.......
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Andrew1967
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Posted: Sunday February 10th, 2008 08:41 am |
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Well if there's a prize going Sal.. In the picture of the '68' shell on the ramp, I see another late Mini in the background. Hope it's not going to meet the same fate
Believe it or not, I don't hunt these wonderful examples out but whilst searching through the pages of Mini crap on eBay each night, some do tend to stick out like a sore thumb. The words custom, modified and of course Norton's search phrase 'head turner' tend to catch my eyes.
I think tax exemption ringing does go on with other marques that cross over the cut off point. I've seen a few dodgy Land Rovers about with old numbers and I guess the likes of Mk1 Escorts and maybe P6 Rovers
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Mk 3 S Meister
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Posted: Sunday February 10th, 2008 09:43 am |
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I wonder if other marque scenes experience the very same thing.......
Lots of Land Rovers as mentioned above, Range Rovers - you see a surprising number of 4 door tax exempt ones - Beetles, a few Austin/Morris 1100/1300s.
There was a case in the local paper a couple of years ago where someone had sent their Range Rover off to a specialist for a 'rebuild' and lo and behold it came back with four doors!
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minorparts
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Posted: Sunday February 10th, 2008 10:10 am |
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Great ! Morris Minors are free of that type of tax evasion ringing as production ceased in 1971. As has been said, Minis and Land Rovers seem to be the obvious ones but I've also seen Rover and Triumph 2000 models and also MG Midget/MGBs too.
Any car which was produced both sides of the 1972 cut-off are going to be 'fodder' for such activity - it is, after all human nature to try and save ourselves from paying taxes so I'm not suprised that people do it while they are running a particular car. However I am suprised that so many come onto the market, thinly disguised or not even disguised at all, and often seem to have been created by specialist dealers! Often this is done to get around import laws and legislation in other countries rather than road tax evasion in our own.
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DaveShreeve
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Posted: Sunday February 10th, 2008 11:15 am |
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| Most Land Rovers can actually be done legally under the DVLA rules. Conversions tend to be new body on existing running gear, or new running gear under old, sometimes very old, body. It seems a lot easier on Land Rovers as so many more parts carry serial numbers and can therefore be checked so that inspectors can apply the DVLA percentage change rules. It seems all you need for a mini is a block with number, a V5C that quotes it, and a late model mini. It's only enthusiasts that actually see the obvious clues!
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Andrew1967
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Posted: Sunday February 10th, 2008 02:56 pm |
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Technically it's also possible on a Mini if you have a new shell, with receipt. But you do have to have an element of the donor car present to attain points for DVLA's formula as you say Dave.
The Mini's mentioned on this thread usually have absolutely nothing of the 'original' car apart from the V5C.
I do have to smile at some of the eBay auctions for tax exempt V5C's though. Some people obviously don't realise that DVLA are wise to this scheme and police eBay to check to see what's for sale and some of the attempts at hiding the registration number or other giveaway information is laughable. The buyer will be in for a nasty shock when they try to get a V5C in their name.
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DaveShreeve
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Posted: Sunday February 10th, 2008 11:23 pm |
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Andrew1967 wrote: Technically it's also possible on a Mini if you have a new shell, with receipt. But you do have to have an element of the donor car present to attain points for DVLA's formula as you say Dave.
I think proving parts originality is the minis big downfall. I seem to remember the system quotes major units for points: engine, gearbox, front and rear axles, chassis, and body. On a Land Rover these are all numbered. How, without specialist knowledge, does anyone checking determine if a rear subframe assembly is 40 years old or been fitted under a 10 year old shell since day one?
On Range Rover conversions a 2 to 4 door change changes none of the numbers. Change 2 bodysides, 4 doors, the rear wings, and side glass above and your done. Being the worlds largest mecanno kit there isn't even any welding to do!h
Last edited on Sunday February 10th, 2008 11:25 pm by DaveShreeve |
dgear1984
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Posted: Thursday February 14th, 2008 01:53 am |
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does anyone still have the link for the mk3 s shell that sold on ebay for only a few quid?? am trying to find a picture of something. i remember seeing lots of links but cant see any now, maybe its the time of night for me??
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Mk 3 S Meister
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Posted: Friday February 15th, 2008 07:39 am |
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| I've got some pictures of it - drop me a PM with your email address and what picture you want to see.
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Andrew1967
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Posted: Monday February 18th, 2008 07:31 pm |
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Does this person know something we don't
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hydrolastic-Units-Mk1-2-BMC-Mini-Saloon_W0QQitemZ220203232671QQihZ012QQcategoryZ43122QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Mk 3 S Meister
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Posted: Tuesday February 19th, 2008 04:16 pm |
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(hoses can be replaced by hydraulic specialist)
I presume this is the part you are referring to? There is a place in Preston or Blackpool - somewhere up that way that can replace hoses but the replacemnt hose does not have the original herringbone pattern.
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Andrew1967
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Posted: Tuesday February 19th, 2008 04:55 pm |
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Mk 3 S Meister wrote: (hoses can be replaced by hydraulic specialist)
I presume this is the part you are referring to? There is a place in Preston or Blackpool - somewhere up that way that can replace hoses but the replacemnt hose does not have the original herringbone pattern.
Yes Simon, that was the part I was referring to 
I now work for an offshore engineering company and we make a lot of hydraulic hoses for various pieces of equipment. Pretty sure I saw some with a similar pattern not so long ago. It would be useful if I could get them repaired
Bargain of the day
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mini-hardy-spicer-driveshafts_W0QQitemZ110225725917QQihZ001QQcategoryZ100916QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Last edited on Tuesday February 19th, 2008 05:29 pm by Andrew1967 |
Glen Ponder
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Posted: Wednesday February 20th, 2008 11:20 am |
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Rare to find now...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200200852549&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=010
Looks nice...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=230223943712&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=013
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minorparts
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Posted: Wednesday February 20th, 2008 01:46 pm |
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Both desirable aren't they! Being an Australian build my 1966 'S' doesn't have the lovely brocade interior of the UK cars (doesn't have the rust either). I would like a set but it is not a priority and having half and half original/reproduction will never look right sadly.....
The Island blue Mk1 was on my watch list already. Looks very good in the photos doesn't it. I did notice that it has a much later front panel with all the later holes in the landing panel like the one Heritage have just sold me as 'correct' for my car! Still, how many old Minis haven't had a few panels changed by now....
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Andrew1967
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Posted: Thursday March 6th, 2008 08:52 pm |
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MINI-WOLSELEY-HORNET-YELLOW_W0QQitemZ120230366906QQihZ002QQcategoryZ38708QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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