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dgear1984
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Posted: Monday October 22nd, 2007 09:30 pm |
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| even the inside? any ideas why blue?
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Mk 3 S Meister
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Posted: Monday October 22nd, 2007 09:33 pm |
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| Should be black all over if its an original Lucas item.
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dgear1984
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Posted: Monday October 22nd, 2007 09:34 pm |
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| what shape sould the plate be that goes on the outside of the sill ontop of the jacking point be? anyone understand that description? mine was a flattened on one side circle on the oversills and a square on the sills that where underneath maybe the origional ones. when i cut the sill of i found some remains of someothe brackets. please use your imagination with the pictures. any ideas. didnt get them with my new sills/floors. should i fabricate some at work? Attachment: 21-10-07_1713.jpg (Downloaded 301 times)
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Andrew1967
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Posted: Monday October 22nd, 2007 09:35 pm |
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Perhaps they originally came off another car that was resprayed blue without taking the bowls out. 
The blue on the outside looks like overspray rather than proper paint.
Should definately be gloss black inside and out for Lucas.
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dgear1984
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Posted: Monday October 22nd, 2007 09:35 pm |
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| there is a simular one at the back but more rusted. can just make it out. Attachment: 21-10-07_1714.jpg (Downloaded 297 times)
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dgear1984
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Posted: Monday October 22nd, 2007 09:50 pm |
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| what type of rad is this? a post 1980 rad that was build to the same spec as the s rad? Attachment: 1.bmp (Downloaded 292 times)
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tim64
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Posted: Tuesday October 23rd, 2007 06:24 pm |
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dgear1984 wrote: what shape sould the plate be that goes on the outside of the sill ontop of the jacking point be? anyone understand that description? mine was a flattened on one side circle on the oversills and a square on the sills that where underneath maybe the origional ones. when i cut the sill of i found some remains of someothe brackets. please use your imagination with the pictures. any ideas. didnt get them with my new sills/floors. should i fabricate some at work? hi dgear, i also found these brackets on my jan 64 car, one at the front of the sill and one at the rear. they were spot welded to the inner sill with a 7/16 nut in the centre of each bracket and were at the angle of the outer sill. m-machine 4 vent sills come with a hole at each end that corresponds with the nut on the brackets inside, i therefore rightly or wrongly concluded that these were fitted to add some extra strength to this section. i dont think they are available but quite easy to fabricate yourself.however i dont recall seeing any cars with bolts going through the sill front and rear, apart from mine. hope this makes sense, cheers tim
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dgear1984
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Posted: Tuesday October 23rd, 2007 08:39 pm |
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anyone got any dimentions of those brackets or better pics? mine are abit too rust i feel.
what are the differnces between the mk1 s servo and the later type remotes?
Am i correct in thinking its larger in size? would it still do the job on a s mastercylinder and 7.5 discs?
I know mini spares do a replica of a mk1 s servo but thats quite pricey and so are mk1 s ones on ebay. the later ones seem cheep on ebay and im sure wouldnt look to out ofplace on my mk1 seeing as it will be a replica.
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mono
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Posted: Tuesday October 23rd, 2007 09:20 pm |
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| The welded nuts on the brackets at each end of the sill were used to attach the "handling bracket" which was used to transport the shells around the factory and through the paint process, the lower end of the handling bracket slipped into the folded top hat section on each end of the floor pan and was shaped to follow the sill angle and bolted to the nut within the sill. The bolts and brackets were then removed on the assembly line, the hole often covered with a dab of underseal (or not)....
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Andrew1967
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Posted: Tuesday October 23rd, 2007 09:21 pm |
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I've got a picture of what the panel work should look like inside the rear pocket, taken from underneath with the sill off. This shows the bracket at the back which is a reinforcement bracket from the subframe mouting panel to the inner sill.
Can't add it here as picture is too big so send me your email address and I'll mail it to you.
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1963S
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Posted: Wednesday October 24th, 2007 10:02 am |
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I always thought they were..sort of....mud coloured 
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dgear1984
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Posted: Sunday October 28th, 2007 09:25 pm |
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i can see the subframe bracket in your pic but not the other brackets i have got.
I have also bought my panels from m-machine.
Anyone else got a picture of those brackets.cant get my head round what they should look like with a nut on them.thanks
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tim64
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Posted: Monday October 29th, 2007 07:18 pm |
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dgear1984 wrote: i can see the subframe bracket in your pic but not the other brackets i have got.
I have also bought my panels from m-machine.
Anyone else got a picture of those brackets.cant get my head round what they should look like with a nut on them.thanks
sorry dgear i havent got any pictures of the brackets but somewhere i have a sketch on an old piece of tin in my garage somewhere, i,ll have a look next time i,m down there. but from memory the front one, the,re about 40mm high and 50mm long , the captive nut being behind the front edge that fits flush along the sill and should pick up with the hole in the sill itself. the next one back is the jacking point bracket, far easier to buy from mini-machine than fabricating yourself, hope this helps cheers tim
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dgear1984
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Posted: Monday October 29th, 2007 09:24 pm |
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| i have the jacking point brackets. its only the outside strengthing plate i was looking into as supplied sills dont have them. there is a bracket simular to the front one maybe an inch or two from the rear subframe panel.
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tim64
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Posted: Tuesday October 30th, 2007 05:55 pm |
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dgear1984 wrote: i have the jacking point brackets. its only the outside strengthing plate i was looking into as supplied sills dont have them. there is a bracket simular to the front one maybe an inch or two from the rear subframe panel. its seems along time ago when i fixed these brackets ,although it was only last year, but alot of work has been done since, but from memory the front comes off the inner sill , 90 degrees along the sill face then 90 ,s back to the inner sill , akind of U shape , whereas the rear comes off the inner sill and 90,s back to the subfrance fixing panel, a kind of L shape. both have 15mm approx return flanges on each end for spot or plug welding and captive 7/16 nut centre plate to marry up with holes in outer sill. . on a seperate note after 3 years of blood, sweat and tears last weekend my finished shell recieved it s eagerly awaited paint, never thought this day would come , i surpose they eventually do, time to start putting things back on the car rather than cut bits of it out...cant wait cheers tim
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dgear1984
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Posted: Friday November 9th, 2007 04:55 pm |
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turns out i had been sent the wrong sills. i had trav sills rather than saloon sills which do have the square plate on them already. everything now becomes clear.
does anyone know the ptnos. stamped/ cast into 7.5 calipers? found some calipers but not 100% sure if they are right.
I have noticed 2day while cutting the floor out there is two holes one each side on the rear subframe panel with plastic clips pushed into them (almost look like a fancy rawplug.) it looks to be properly done and not dodged like so many other parts of the car just wondered if anyone knows what they really are?? clip the carpet in vertically?
Was the mk1 s servo fitted to any other cars ie an allegro ??
Really enjoying cracking into my project now work has tailed off for the winter. shame it gets dark so early. hope my project is still enjoyable at the end and hasn't turned into a chore.
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Mk 3 S Meister
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Posted: Saturday November 10th, 2007 07:22 am |
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holes one each side on the rear subframe panel with plastic clips pushed into them (almost look like a fancy rawplug
The one on the left is for a breather pipe from the petrol pump.
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dgear1984
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Posted: Saturday November 10th, 2007 09:15 am |
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oh ok. how exactly do you mean? a bracket for the pipe? the plug is pushed in from the inside?
Mine is made of a white plastic although has been burnt/melted in the past when welding new plates on i assume?
if you were to push the pipe onto it surley it would breathe into the car correct??
can you still get hold of these parts??
Last edited on Saturday November 10th, 2007 04:33 pm by dgear1984 |
rodeo1968
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Posted: Wednesday November 14th, 2007 10:00 pm |
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| Back to the FE number information. Could Mk 3 S Meister tell me please what FE 1171xxx belongs to?
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Mk 3 S Meister
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Posted: Wednesday November 14th, 2007 10:50 pm |
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| I can't tell you what it belongs to, only that it dates to September 1967.
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