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CT4NH
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 Posted: Friday April 25th, 2008 09:28 pm
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As I'm about to refit the engine/gearbox in, and having removed and overhauled also the front subframe, I would appreciate your opinions about the most efficient (not fast) method to refit the engine/gearbox (suspension is dry, if this weights in the option):

- from below (upwards) , engine/gearbox already installed in the subframe (the car/body 'coming to' or instead the subframe/engine 'going to' the car/body?)In this case, should the engine be complete with all ancillaries?

- from above (downwards), having previously installed the front subframe, obviously.

I've been, locally, hearing lots of theories about the most easy, practical and safe (less damage for the car/body) but I'm really confused...

In my garage I have means (or I have to create them) to do it both ways.

Thanks!:)

Alasdair Brass
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 Posted: Friday April 25th, 2008 09:55 pm
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Hi ?,

I've done it both ways and I prefer to lower the body on to the completed engine/subframe. Done this way, little work is required under the car and everything is reasonably accessible.  Lowering an engine with remote gearchange transmission into place can be hard on paint, there is not a lot of room as the gearchange part of the diff housing feeds down through the subframe.   My two bob's worth!

 

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Al 

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 Posted: Saturday April 26th, 2008 08:20 am
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I would agree with Al, and you can put the radiator on before lowering the body down, but you do need to take it slowly.

J

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 Posted: Sunday April 27th, 2008 10:04 am
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Thanks to 'Kiwi' boys! So, will go NZ way. Previously I will install all ancillaries, hopefully like this one in the attachement.

Thanks, Luis:)

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 Posted: Sunday April 27th, 2008 10:59 am
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That looks stunning, is it yours?

The carbs and dynamo will need to come off, and maybe the dizzy too, but i cant remember exactly.

James

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 Posted: Sunday April 27th, 2008 12:05 pm
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Not mine, belonging to a friend (pure amateur like me, DIY...) it's one Morris Cooper MKI 1966. As far as I know he has installed it with all ancillaries. Mine, see attachements.

Thanks! Luis

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 Posted: Sunday April 27th, 2008 12:07 pm
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another one

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CT4NH
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another...

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 Posted: Sunday April 27th, 2008 08:16 pm
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Hi James,

You might be thinking about fitting an engine in from the top??  I had everything on the 850 when I lowered the body onto the subframe, apart from the carby.  I fitted that later.  

 

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Al

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 Posted: Monday April 28th, 2008 07:20 am
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I stand corrected

Actually, I'm sitting.

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 Posted: Monday April 28th, 2008 10:01 pm
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Is that a speck of dirt I can see on the table?

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 Posted: Tuesday April 29th, 2008 05:09 am
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And if it was a speck of dirt? What then?

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 Posted: Saturday May 3rd, 2008 03:42 pm
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I see a mod of tape over the opening on the remote, has anybody else done this? Looks a good idea to keep crud out, then again most of us won't use them where it is likely to be a problem.:D

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 Posted: Saturday May 3rd, 2008 11:23 pm
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Yes, it is aluminium tape (Tesa) (3 layers) in order to avoid dirt, water etc,  to enter into the space between differential cover and speed lever/remote control housing and eventually damage levers, primary shaft etc,..

Not original but efficient.

Luis:)

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 Posted: Sunday May 4th, 2008 06:19 am
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I have seen a plate that covers this hole, it is secured with a single screw i think,

Perhaps it is an Australian S thing?

Any thoughts?

J

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 Posted: Sunday May 4th, 2008 09:15 am
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? Never saw one like that (plate / rubber?). By any chance do you have photos? Perhaps somebody here can clarify. In this moment I still have space to acess that zone, as I'm about to install the powertrain in the body, and then...:(

Thanks.

 

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 Posted: Sunday May 4th, 2008 11:04 am
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I used to do autocross back in the early 70's and it was common practice to drill and tap two small holes in the diff. cap and fit a shaped aluminium plate , this was to stop small stones getting in and jamming the gearchange.

With these caps being prone to cracking, I would hesitate about drilling anymore holes and stick to the tape method                    regards Bob

 picture shows where the caps were drilled

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CT4NH
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 Posted: Sunday May 4th, 2008 01:11 pm
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Agree. I'll stick also with 'my' aluminium tape!Thanks for pic.

Painted MOWOG green obviously!:)

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 Posted: Sunday May 4th, 2008 01:39 pm
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Friends used something similar, but much larger on theirs. It used extended studs for the top of the diff housing to provide location. It did a good job but I wouldn't recommend for road use without careful mounting - it used to buzz and rattle at certain harmonics, no problem in competition but it would really get on my nerves on the road.

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 Posted: Sunday May 4th, 2008 06:52 pm
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Anybody got any mowog green tape?:D


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