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Andrew1967
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Posted: Monday August 21st, 2006 09:26 pm |
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Meister,
Looks like it's a log book revival job then 
Glen,
Hats off to you for your honesty, it's refreshing to know that there are some genuine people out there. I noted that you mentioned about the high seat belt points. These were changed in '63, so it would be a giveaway of the shell's true age. I was going to alter the points to the lower position in my replica as my shell is an Oct '62, but it looked too difficult and would probably weaken the B-post where strength was most important.
When you see what S's make in 'genuine' form, £7K is not really out of the way at all for your car. It does not take much to add up all the parts to approach that figure.
Lets face it Glen, your car is a damn sight better than the 'genuine 9000 mile from new car' that started this thread in the first place ad that sold for a lot more than £7K
As a matter of interest, did your car have a Powder Blue bootboard?
Regards
Andrew
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Glen Ponder
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Posted: Monday August 21st, 2006 09:45 pm |
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No the bootboard was one part that was absent, though it would have had a powder blue item.
I make no big deal of the honesty tag, I am however always surprised by the selective memory of the majority of sellers when it comes to parting with their cars.
The spot welds on those B posts will unpick a lot easier than you might imagine. Will yours have those weaker early ones that always crack above the latch ? Happened on mine, they're a bugger !
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Andrew1967
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Posted: Monday August 21st, 2006 10:09 pm |
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Both sides had cracked where the rear 1/4 panel wraps around the B-post adjacent to the straight line pressing. From memory they had cracked on my 1960 850 as well.
I've decided to leave the high seat belt points just painted the inside so it's too late to alter things now!
Thanks for confirming the colour of the bootboard.
Andrew
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Andrew1967
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Posted: Sunday September 3rd, 2006 07:16 pm |
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Hmmmm... another one for the collection - '61 S - interesting
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AUSTIN-MINI-COOPER-S-1961-HISTORIC-VEHICLE-TAX-EXEMPT_W0QQitemZ200023736943QQihZ010QQcategoryZ38708QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Glen Ponder
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Posted: Saturday September 30th, 2006 04:51 pm |
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Some very odd cars out there, here's another for the gallery....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=010&item=200031774417&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
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Glen Ponder
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Posted: Saturday September 30th, 2006 05:01 pm |
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...and a Mk2 998 Cooper in Tweed Grey ? Is that possible ?
http://www.minimania.com/web/id/6685/ClassDetail.cfm
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Posted: Saturday September 30th, 2006 05:10 pm |
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Posted: Saturday September 30th, 2006 05:36 pm |
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Glen,
I take it Primrose yellow is not a stock cooper colour or is it the fact that it has Red/silver brocade trim ? I thought yellow cars had blue/silver interiors ?
I quite like the car apart from that though.
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Andrew1967
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Posted: Saturday September 30th, 2006 06:49 pm |
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Nice original plain red interior in the one for sale in America as well
Think I prefer the correct Powder Blue brocade rather than Tartan Red in the yellow cars. Should be Fiesta Yellow as well shouldn't it Glen, our favourite 
Andrew
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Glen Ponder
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Posted: Saturday September 30th, 2006 08:26 pm |
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Oh yes, we like Fiesta Yellow  , we're a rare breed though  . As for the red/grey interior,that's an odd combo, that recliner's doubled the asking price ! Note the standard Mini white switch carrier, why would you change it ? A small detail I know but oft overlooked in the past during that reshell..!
As for a Tweed Grey Mk2, well Tweed was a very late Mk1 colour,so I could almost go for that, despite not being offered on any Mk2 from the factory, a special order maybe ?
I note this rare beasty is back up for sale, hope but doubt it'll stay in the U.K.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1967-MORRIS-MINI-COOPER-S-GOLD_W0QQitemZ190036452385QQihZ009QQcategoryZ43123QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Glen Ponder
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Posted: Saturday September 30th, 2006 08:47 pm |
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Sal wrote: "Only in America" as they say !!!!
Despite appearances, and plenty of evidence to the contrary with much modded or wrongly dated cars, you'd be surprised just how many original Coopers there are out there.Trouble is it costs a bomb to import them.
Like many classic car owners we're inclined to limit the use of our Minis to sunny weekends ,quite unlike the thrasing they recieved in the 60's and 70's in all weathers ,we look after them and preserve them. Well the Americans always treated them so, not as daily drivers,nor rally cars (plus all the roads are straight !) and so many exported cars still exist with little repanneling or need to reshell. Trouble is many of the cars exported in 'recent' years have had new identities stuck on them to gain access to the U.S., so there's an assumption most U.S cars are fake.
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Posted: Sunday October 1st, 2006 10:34 am |
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Oh, I think I have been misunderstood....."Only in America" to me is a widely used phrase, probably as a result of working for American organisations for about thirteen yers !!!! I meant in the general sense, rather than specifically about Mini Cooper cars 
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Andrew1967
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Posted: Sunday October 1st, 2006 11:47 am |
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Glen Ponder wrote:
I note this rare beasty is back up for sale, hope but doubt it'll stay in the U.K.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1967-MORRIS-MINI-COOPER-S-GOLD_W0QQitemZ190036452385QQihZ009QQcategoryZ43123QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Whats the story with this one then? Didn't the £20K deal go through last time ? Seems odd that there are no bids at all this time
Surely it's a spoof auction, I note that the 'seller' has a different eBay handle to the original seller and buyer and according to the original auction the deal went through very easily
Must say though, it's a lovely car.
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GTD
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Posted: Tuesday October 3rd, 2006 11:39 am |
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Have just joined the MCR Forum - and am in shock about the e-Bay links on here as I'd been thinking about possibly looking at one or two of what seems to be several Coopers on there at the moment!
I guess I need to do some concentrated reading of the collected wisddom on here
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Andrew1967
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Posted: Tuesday October 3rd, 2006 11:49 am |
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Hi GTD and welcome to the MCR Forum.
Best book to read is John Parnells 'Original Mini Cooper and Cooper S' but also it provides good detailing for faking cars
Would suggest browsing the forum when cars appear on eBay for comments and also contact the applicable MCR registrar who may have details on the car.
There are some nice cars out there but not all purport to what they say they are
None of us mind replica's (I'm building a Mk1 S replica myself) and fakes but only if the owners are truthful
Regards
Andrew
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GTD
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Posted: Tuesday October 3rd, 2006 11:54 am |
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Andrew - thanks!
Will find a copy of the bible! As I'd want to use mine for a few sprints and hillclimbs and the odd European trackday where I cannot face driving there in my Caterham, I guess a replica is not really the end of the world for me!
Geoff
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Andrew1967
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Posted: Tuesday October 3rd, 2006 12:06 pm |
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Probably better as it wouldn't be so bad damaging a replica - just as costly to repair though 
Andrew
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Posted: Tuesday October 3rd, 2006 04:31 pm |
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All very subjective though chaps. I've seen highly restored cars that are merely replicas of the car that came off the production line, with all new everything, so the dividing line between a nice Cooper replica and the 'real thing' can be a fine one !
Difference is that a nice 'Coopered up' Mk1 on an 850 logbook with go faster / stop faster bits will be half the price to buy 'done' than the 'original' car with the 'S' log book !! It's certainly a cheaper alternative (expensive to build though) but a big advantage also is you're out of that minefield of buying an 'original' car , and a minefield it is as this thread illustrates. The car to own I still think is the Mk3 'S', much less likely to be listed in the rogues gallery we have here, and still under valued.
Glad our garbled musings are of some benefit to potentilal buyers like yourself Geoff. Keep us posted with your search, any questions....fire away !
Oh..and Sal, actually I think you were right first time, I'm surprised that Mk2 isn't a '60, bright orange and hasn't a 'snow scoop' stuck to the front !
How's that lovely Surf Super coming along ?
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Posted: Tuesday October 3rd, 2006 10:19 pm |
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Hello !!!
Thanks for the interest in my Super.....a lot of work has been done already, but there's still a long way to go with this one. I know it is going to be seriously good so I am being very patient. Besides, I do have others to choose from !! Having said that, I am doing 72 miles a day to work and back in my 1968 850 as the fleet seems to be a bit poorly at the moment !
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Posted: Wednesday October 4th, 2006 08:09 am |
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| Did you spot the Almond green Super for sale in Scotland recently, advertised just as a Mk1 850 ? The white roof and that unique grille gave it away on the photo. Stange with Supers, rare as hen's teeth, you don't see one for months/years then a few turn up in succession. That one of yours looks very original, and the powder blue/gold brocade seats looked barely 'sat on'. Keep us posted on the rebuild.
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