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Andrew1967
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Posted: Tuesday August 1st, 2006 07:29 am |
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Glen,
Here's another gem for you 
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160013251486&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=006
Very rare Mk2 Cooper in a Mk3 shell without bootboard brackets etc.
Like the question shown. 'Is it a genuine Cooper?' Answer - 'It says Morris Mini Cooper on the V5C' Hmmmmmmm !!!!!!! 
Andrew
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Mk 3 S Meister
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Posted: Tuesday August 1st, 2006 05:24 pm |
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Glen Ponder
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Posted: Tuesday August 1st, 2006 06:27 pm |
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Ebay really can be quite hilarious.
I've got a car on there at the moment , first time I've sold one,and some of the questions I've been asked you wouldn't believe. Most of the bids I recieve are from folk who have never seen the car and have no intention of either ?!
It seems to me there's a lot of 'buyers' out there. Some are prepared to spend a few bob but haven't bothered to gen up and so know bugger all about the cars . The Mk2 'S' which was inquired about on here recently is absolutely spot on, original and has factory recliners in it and rally history I think and still remains unsold just because it's not got the chassis and engine plate on it which are easily available to replace.
Here's another lemon for the collection ....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Morris-Mini-Cooper-S_W0QQitemZ120014605180QQihZ002QQcategoryZ43122QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Andrew1967
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Posted: Tuesday August 1st, 2006 08:08 pm |
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Hi Glen,
Is yours the Fiesta Yellow Mk1 S ?
At least 'ARX' has sliding windows unlike the Mk2 I mentioned. In common though, neither have bootboard brackets.
I'm still quite taken aback that the concours White/Black Mk1 998 only made just over £5000. That was a bargain.
Andrew
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Mk 3 S Meister
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Posted: Tuesday August 1st, 2006 08:10 pm |
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That's certainly another gem.
Why bother to disguise the number plate on the bonnet when it is clearly visible on the boot?
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Posted: Tuesday August 1st, 2006 09:25 pm |
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Hi Glen,
Love your Fiesta Yellow S,as far as dream mini's go that would be about perfect spec for me - she really is a beauty.Why the hell are you flicking it on ? I can't quite run to the dollars you are asking right now though(I remember your ad on the register),my circumstances at the moment are a bit 'confusing' to say the least.I may be able to run to this one though,in fact this is about perfect for me as far as Mk2 'S's go (p'raps chuck in some factory recliners for good measure,)looks like a good 'improver'.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1968-MORRIS-MINI-COOPER-S-GREEN-WHITE_W0QQitemZ280012995405QQihZ018QQcategoryZ43123QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
We seem to have a glut of good cars all of a sudden.
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Glen Ponder
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Posted: Tuesday August 1st, 2006 11:58 pm |
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Yup that's my baby ( the Fiesta Yellow car) ( Meister's fave colour !  ) ( Meister's floggin' the Almond Mk2)
..and she's got to go cos.... erm...good question ! Because I've another car which needs 'sorting out' and the Fiesta Yellow car's so much fun nothing's getting done.
That 998 Cooper Andrew's referring to (EDV..) is up my neck of the woods and the owner's told me he'd pull the auction and put it in an 'actual real auction' for a children's charity. Pretty sure he's not let it go for £5K, I'd have had it meself !
Andrew , what colour's your replica ?
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Andrew1967
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Posted: Wednesday August 2nd, 2006 08:05 am |
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Hi Glen,
I guess that someone 'bought EDV back' () then so it can be put into a proper auction. I can't believe that it only made £5000 ish, especially when you see this one at £3100
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330010995508&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:UK:12
My replica is the one and only......Fiesta Yellow/OEW, what else will do!! The car was was Fiesta Yellow from new and had never been resprayed. Sorry to all those that hate the colour, but I like it!
If my car (an Austin) turns out looking as good as 'FAX' Glen, I'll be well pleased. Hat's off to you for being honest about the reshell, I guess that's what is affecting the auction. FAX is a great looking car and is really as original as the vast majority of other Mk1 S's. It's a pity that other people aren't as honest. As you say, back in the 80's it was the only way to go if the original shell was shot. Nowadays it is still done but people try to hide it due to price that '100% genuine' S's make - if such a car exists
I will say that my replica will be a damn sight better than some of the crap that has been on eBay purporting to be the real deal. It is costing me a bit to get the right parts but it'll still be a lot less than buying a basket case S to restore, if one can be found that can be prised from the owners hands. It should be ready for the 2007 summer season with any luck
regards
Andrew
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Glen Ponder
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Posted: Wednesday August 2nd, 2006 11:55 am |
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I'm not sure the 'reshell' issue is the problem with my auction, if it is then it's laughable as the car's got history, lots of patina and hardly any repro bits on.
You'll see a 'restored' car for sale with entirely new interior,chrome (stainless steel), poor detail and comprised of unassociated parts cobbled together which may be described as an original shell. Well the issue for me is if it is the original shell, which bits of the shell are original ? Do you see my point, many restored cars have 70% new bodywork and I think most punters out there looking for a Cooper S seem to be barking up the wrong tree. Where's the car been is the question . Usually the answer is it's lead a very hard life as most Coopers did, been pranged,rallied, modified , bogged up, rotted away and ended up in a draw !
If I don't find a buyer I'll be happy to keep it , just need to get the 'Mrs' to hide the keys so I can get on with me other car which is the exception to the rule in that it's not had a panel (yet !)
I'm with you Andrew on Fiesta Yellow, I love it. I know there's plenty who don't though ! Have you managed to find all that lovely powder blue/ brocade trim ?
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Andrew1967
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Posted: Wednesday August 2nd, 2006 12:42 pm |
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Hi Glen,
Unless you know a cars history from new and can trust what the previous owner(s) says, how can you prove if it's the original shell anyway? I agree that a sound, unrestored or repanelled shell must be a better base than a rotten, damaged 'original' shell, even if it is an 850 shell. They can be modified relatively easily. The problem arises where unscrupulous people try to pass them off as original cars and (conveniently) failing to admit to a reshell. A reshell in itself is not a problem as long as you are aware of it. Make sure DVLA don't find out though as you'll end up with a Q plate 
I'd get the Missus to hide the keys now before you get an acceptable offer
The Powder Blue/Brocade interior.....I'm keeping an eye out for one but suspect I'll get a Newton repro job, after all it is a replica! I'd like to find a decent original rear parcel shelf though as I don't like the join in the middle! Whatever happens, the car will not appear on the road with the standard Powder Blue interior, no matter that it is in lovely condition!!
Andrew
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Alasdair Brass
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Posted: Wednesday August 2nd, 2006 08:31 pm |
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Hi guys,
Andrew has been sending me a few photos, as he progresses and he is making a lovely job of the car. The FY looks superb and I believe his car will be far more "correct" than many that masquerade and genuine examples. BTW, I am another fan of FY and I kinda accept the blue/grey interior these days.
Glen, you raise another good point on the original body sage. As some will know, another love of mine is WW2 jeeps. The reality is that most jeeps with an "original body" have had something like 75% or more of panels replaced with new ones and in my opinion, this type of repaired body can only be rated marginally better than a complete repro. tub, available from the Philippines. Originality is often quoted but seldom accurately and the degree is usually expressed by the vehicle owner. He is often the last person that should be rating originality. Finally, what is originality anyway? Is the bench mark the way it left the factory, 5 or 10 years later or at the end of continous every day service? It is my humble opinion that there would be very few vehicles, world wide, that would be original after some 40 years have elapsed. OK, sorry for waffling!
Regards
Al
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Glen Ponder
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Posted: Monday August 14th, 2006 05:45 pm |
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Another one for the rogues gallery ?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=005&item=150020360904&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
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Mk 3 S Meister
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Posted: Monday August 14th, 2006 07:33 pm |
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| Take a look at the questions - it has had a very comprehensive colour change
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Andrew1967
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Posted: Monday August 21st, 2006 02:42 pm |
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Hi Folks,
Not a Cooper or S, granted, but worthy of the gallery
I like the tastefully prepared boot area
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rare-Austin-Mini-1000s_W0QQitemZ320019646925QQihZ011QQcategoryZ43123QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Andrew
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Glen Ponder
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Posted: Monday August 21st, 2006 04:48 pm |
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Ahh the smell of fresh underseal, quite addictive.
On quick glance this 'stunning example' seems to be missing it's original engine, and whole interior, ...and switch carrier, ....and it's bootboard and brackets, andat a guess it's probably not a 997 Cooper then is it ? Doh !
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih
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Andrew1967
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Posted: Monday August 21st, 2006 05:10 pm |
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Hi Glen,
Only part of the link has added - can we all have a look at the 'stunning example' please?!
Andrew
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Posted: Monday August 21st, 2006 05:15 pm |
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Oops, try this.........
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=019&item=290020052271&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
Actually it's a fairly nice motor, just can't see where the '997 Cooper' comes into it, and as is becoming more common place , it's lost it's original reg.
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Andrew1967
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Posted: Monday August 21st, 2006 05:50 pm |
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Hi Glen,
I see it has the 'optional extra' courtesy light switch in the A-post Nice looking car though at first glance.
Has your Fiesta Yellow S gone to it's new home yet?
Andrew
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Mk 3 S Meister
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Posted: Monday August 21st, 2006 06:40 pm |
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That has been on eBay a couple of times already.
I see he has carefully avoided showing any pictures of the seats - but that door card looks more Blue/Grey than Dove Grey.
The speedo is a Mk 2, white switch panel, closed circuit breather valve on the engine etc etc
The vehicle details for OAS 689 are:
Date of Liability
01 10 2006
Date of First Registration
12 01 1994
Year of Manufacture
1963
Cylinder Capacity (cc)
997CC
CO2 Emissions
Not Available
Fuel Type
Petrol
Export Marker
Not Applicable
Vehicle Status
Licence Not Due
Vehicle Colour
BLUE
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Glen Ponder
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Posted: Monday August 21st, 2006 09:10 pm |
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Yup Andrew the' Fiesta's' now gone to a good home.
A friend of mine alerted me to a big topic of conversation on the Minimania message board all about ......my auction ! Apparently some dude in the States was aghast that I'd got £7K for a reshelled 'S' with history and all the right original standard parts on it. There seemed to be a strong element of disbelief that that most of 'em are in fact reshelled, or more over built from pictures ! Maybe I should have left them all in dreamland and not mention the 'R' word, but it's not my style. You will very rarely see any other auction ever refer to the provenance of the shell, why can't folk just fess up ?! Ho hum.
I think the Smoke Grey car has a powder blue interior from the standard 850. I always think the white switch carrier gives the game away as silly as it sounds, why would you replace it ?
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