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Posted: Thursday May 10th, 2007 11:53 am |
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Yes - assuming he even exists  !
I think the other white Mk2 reached £4850.00 which is a bit more 'real world'.
I wonder where we'll see the "23,000 mile" one next?.....
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Andrew1967
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Posted: Thursday May 10th, 2007 10:13 pm |
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I see the red/black Mk1 made £5400  Crazy money in my eyes.
Hope the buyer takes a Tranny van to pick up all the original bits that go with the car
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minorparts
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Posted: Thursday May 10th, 2007 10:38 pm |
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Yes, that's a lot isn't it! What's the betting that "all" the original bits aren't there.
Must've been the dash that did it......
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Andrew1967
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Posted: Thursday May 10th, 2007 10:46 pm |
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| I was tempted to buy it just for the dash and fit it to my replica
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Alasdair Brass
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Posted: Thursday May 10th, 2007 10:49 pm |
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DaveShreeve
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Posted: Friday May 11th, 2007 01:04 am |
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| Sorry you guys in Norfolk, seems your not going to see the dusty red barn find. Has somebody had words with the buyer? Or did he work it out for himself? Either way it's relisted: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1966-MORRIS-MINI-MK1-COOPER-FOR-RESTORATION_W0QQitemZ140116933116QQihZ004QQcategoryZ43123QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Andrew1967
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Posted: Friday May 11th, 2007 08:07 am |
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That's a shame, I was looking forward to seeing this car   .
Perhaps the buyer looked at our comments and thought twice about it or took off his rose coloured specs. Seems that for the second time feedback has not been left either way so I guess it's a mutual agreement not to proceed with the deal
If he's totally fed up with timewasters perhaps he should make the description a bit more accurate as looks neither original nor complete. I'm sure there's been plenty of eBayers emailing him to inform him Always suspicious when seller does not display answers to questions
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Mini4Ever
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Posted: Saturday May 12th, 2007 06:22 pm |
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Probably a bit late reaction, but the white & black car did not sell in case the seller really wants the reserve of 6K.
Hailthegreatman wrote:
Threw my question at this guy about the engine and chassis numbers..the engine number answers a lot of questions....that number denotes a standard 998cc engine doesn't it?
Makes the description innaccurate unless I have made a mistake?
Dispite that the 5 in the chassis number should probably be an S (a common mistake), it is a chassis number of a Morris Cooper Mk II. And from March 1969 onwards, the engine number of MK II Coopers did start with 99H337 (and then supposingly an H - not a 0). So, I am not completely sure how fake the car actually is apart from the currently fitted incorrect engine and the other dodgy parts in the engine bay of course.
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Mini4Ever
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Posted: Saturday May 12th, 2007 06:37 pm |
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DaveShreeve wrote: Sorry you guys in Norfolk, seems your not going to see the dusty red barn find. Has somebody had words with the buyer? Or did he work it out for himself? Either way it's relisted: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1966-MORRIS-MINI-MK1-COOPER-FOR-RESTORATION_W0QQitemZ140116933116QQihZ004QQcategoryZ43123QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Maybe we should get confirmation for this car by means of chassis and engine numbers. The car does have some Cooperish features (like the chrome finishers on the doors) but the most obvious thing that is 'missing' is the black material on the dash... And the speedo does not really show well on those pictures, does it? Would be good to also have a picture from under the bonnet...
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Andrew1967
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Posted: Saturday May 12th, 2007 07:09 pm |
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The white/black Mk2 is probably an original Cooper but would a 23,000 mile car now be minus its hydrolastic suspension and many other under bonnet components?
Looking at the pictures again for £6K+, I would expect the underside to be painted. By the looks of it the wheelarches and underside are black/undersealed. The rear valence does not look white either
He should have snatched Patrick's arm off with the £6.7K offer
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Mini4Ever
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Posted: Saturday May 12th, 2007 08:21 pm |
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Based on what we know now, I would agree that the white & black is a genuine Cooper. The milage is probably more like 123000 and indeed, the price seems rather high considering the aspects you mention. Although, I can't really judge the colouring of the underside very well on my monitor, I recon that it could just be the shadow that makes it to look black, or not? - The rear valence however seems to be white (I used a tool to increase the brightness and contrast of the involved picture to determine that). Next to the missing hydrolastic suspension, I am actually mostly disappointed about the 1275 conversion which apparently even lead to a log book change...
For the red & black one, I am not yet sure at the moment. It has most of the right features but what disturbs me with this one is that the black vinyl on the dash is missing and the gear level is not in chrome. It does have the chrome door finishers, chrome steering column mounting and black roof but these things are rather easy to add. So, at this point I would guess it is a Super de Luxe with a 998 engine fitted unless the chassis and engine numbers would suggest something else. In line with this, a proper picture of the speedo and engine would also help a bit...
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Andrew1967
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Posted: Saturday May 12th, 2007 09:19 pm |
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Ah, you have got a cleverer computer than mine then as I can't do that to the pictures!! I stand corrected on the rear valence. It could be the angle of the light on the underside/wheelarches but I know that my OEW Mk1 850 shows its body colour wheelarches and sills at almost any angle
I'd like to see a picture of the under bonnet and inside the boot of the other one. The thing that concerns me is the lack of dash vinyl and the OEW switch panel. Also the 850 gear lever blanking plate looks a little suspect. The other parts could have been transferred from the original car - even the doors/chromes.
There's obviously a good reason why at least two sales have fell through as £1K for a genuine Cooper is pretty good. I guess the black/black black brocade trim does not help But then if those front seats are the genuine Mick Jagger seats.........
At the right money, this car would make a nice project for someone even if it is not completely correct/original.
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Mini4Ever
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Posted: Saturday May 12th, 2007 09:29 pm |
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Indeed, the switch panel is also incorrect and I think the seats are from a Hornet...
So, it is probably not more than a barn find 'collection of mini parts that form one car'
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Posted: Saturday May 12th, 2007 10:23 pm |
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I hate to be pedantic (but what the hell)
no ones mentioned the ashtray yet!!!!
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Posted: Saturday May 12th, 2007 11:36 pm |
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| All a bit academic really, it's obviously an early Mk1 850 with later (non Cooper) bits and pieces bolted to it. I've seen cars restored from less and sold for fortunes ! It's the 'seems all original' line in the ad that's the joke , but hey what's new ?! The penny (and the price) will drop eventually.
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Norton
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Posted: Sunday May 13th, 2007 10:48 am |
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How about a bumper made of copper for your mini?
rear
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mini-Copper-Rear-Bumper_W0QQitemZ320111838194QQihZ011QQcategoryZ10374QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
And front
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mini-Copper-Front-Bumper_W0QQitemZ320111838291QQihZ011QQcategoryZ10374QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Shame there is no photo available.... bet they'd be a bugger to keep clean.
Actually there are quite a few "copper" accessories available for a mini on ebay if you do a search
how about some wheel nuts made from "copper alloy"? very rare...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/genuine-mini-copper-alloy-wheel-nuts_W0QQitemZ190109966499QQihZ009QQcategoryZ72257QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Mini4Ever
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Posted: Sunday May 13th, 2007 10:54 am |
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We will probably have to wait a bit longer so see that ultimate ad saying 'For sale: Old Mini from first owner for £100', where the seller clearly proves that it is actually a genuine S, without knowing it
But, even that would be somehow suspicius ...
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Andrew1967
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Posted: Sunday May 13th, 2007 11:20 am |
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Norton wrote:
how about some wheel nuts made from "copper alloy"? very rare...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/genuine-mini-copper-alloy-wheel-nuts_W0QQitemZ190109966499QQihZ009QQcategoryZ72257QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Well, the picture does show them as being copper coloured so perhaps they are
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Norton
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Posted: Sunday May 13th, 2007 11:55 am |
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| Well the Ad does say they are genuine. They come from an M reg mini Copper. A very rare police model.....
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Hailthegreatman
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Posted: Sunday May 13th, 2007 04:24 pm |
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Mini4Ever wrote: DaveShreeve wrote: Sorry you guys in Norfolk, seems your not going to see the dusty red barn find. Has somebody had words with the buyer? Or did he work it out for himself? Either way it's relisted: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1966-MORRIS-MINI-MK1-COOPER-FOR-RESTORATION_W0QQitemZ140116933116QQihZ004QQcategoryZ43123QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Maybe we should get confirmation for this car by means of chassis and engine numbers. The car does have some Cooperish features (like the chrome finishers on the doors) but the most obvious thing that is 'missing' is the black material on the dash... And the speedo does not really show well on those pictures, does it? Would be good to also have a picture from under the bonnet...
Hi Guys,
Here are the crucial numbers direct from the vendor....
"Chassis no is K/A254884799 & engine no is 9FD5AH16772. I have taken these numbers from the actual car, as i have been asked that so often"
He's promised some more pictures on Tuesday. But that's pretty academic as he has ended the auction early again, perhaps for the asking price?
Stuart
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